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	<title>Comments on: Marin Squeaking By Another Transit Fee Hike</title>
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		<title>By: girl86</title>
		<link>http://sf.metblogs.com/2008/08/12/marin-squeaking-by-another-transit-fee-hike/comment-page-1/#comment-7922</link>
		<dc:creator>girl86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four words: Washington Metro Yellow Line.  In D.C. the Blue Metro Line goes under the Potomac, while the Yellow provides a gorgeous view of the Potomac while going over it.  Now, I know that people don&#039;t want to mar the loveliness of the GG by sticking a BART track next to it, but it is an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four words: Washington Metro Yellow Line.  In D.C. the Blue Metro Line goes under the Potomac, while the Yellow provides a gorgeous view of the Potomac while going over it.  Now, I know that people don&#8217;t want to mar the loveliness of the GG by sticking a BART track next to it, but it is an option.</p>
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		<title>By: kareanderson</title>
		<link>http://sf.metblogs.com/2008/08/12/marin-squeaking-by-another-transit-fee-hike/comment-page-1/#comment-7918</link>
		<dc:creator>kareanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the cost was especially high for that marin/S.F. link - due to the depth of the Bay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the cost was especially high for that marin/S.F. link &#8211; due to the depth of the Bay</p>
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		<title>By: njudah</title>
		<link>http://sf.metblogs.com/2008/08/12/marin-squeaking-by-another-transit-fee-hike/comment-page-1/#comment-7916</link>
		<dc:creator>njudah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks to the folks in marin not only did bart not go to the north bay, it never went down Geary St. Why do you have a shitty janky 38 bus line that was a &#039;temporary&#039; measure until the &#039;new&#039; rail service took over from the old streetcar?

Because SF is owed a line there, but never insists on it. and because BART never went to Marin, the impetus was reduced.

so sad that in 1958 the Mayor killed the B geary line for something that never showed up. And now the 38 is the most busy line west of the mississippi, served by...janky buses straight outta the third world. 

FRAKKED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks to the folks in marin not only did bart not go to the north bay, it never went down Geary St. Why do you have a shitty janky 38 bus line that was a &#8216;temporary&#8217; measure until the &#8216;new&#8217; rail service took over from the old streetcar?</p>
<p>Because SF is owed a line there, but never insists on it. and because BART never went to Marin, the impetus was reduced.</p>
<p>so sad that in 1958 the Mayor killed the B geary line for something that never showed up. And now the 38 is the most busy line west of the mississippi, served by&#8230;janky buses straight outta the third world. </p>
<p>FRAKKED!</p>
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		<title>By: slappyfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>slappyfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kind of hard to believe Marin couldn’t afford BART.&quot;

Big difference between couldn&#039;t and wouldn&#039;t.  Regardless of what they claim about engineering concerns blah blah, I can&#039;t imagine the Marin of 1961 being any different than the Marin I lived in which was populated by NIMBYs and short-sighted fools.

The biggest &quot;reason&quot; (and I use that term loosely) to reject transit initiatives in both Sonoma and Marin counties was that it somehow contributes to growth.  There is an absolute willful delusion transit is somehow key even though people move there anyway.

Growth and urban boundaries are what stops sprawl and the people I knew up there refuse to understand that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Kind of hard to believe Marin couldn’t afford BART.&quot;</p>
<p>Big difference between couldn&#8217;t and wouldn&#8217;t.  Regardless of what they claim about engineering concerns blah blah, I can&#8217;t imagine the Marin of 1961 being any different than the Marin I lived in which was populated by NIMBYs and short-sighted fools.</p>
<p>The biggest &quot;reason&quot; (and I use that term loosely) to reject transit initiatives in both Sonoma and Marin counties was that it somehow contributes to growth.  There is an absolute willful delusion transit is somehow key even though people move there anyway.</p>
<p>Growth and urban boundaries are what stops sprawl and the people I knew up there refuse to understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: talksfrealestate</title>
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		<dc:creator>talksfrealestate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not from Marin.  I live in San Francisco, and work here, so I am not affected by the toll unless I go to visit family in the North Bay.  I do have to say, however, that the lack of a BART type system from here to Marin and Sonoma County is ridiculous.  There are so many people who commute here from Marin.  With the cost of gas as excessive as it is, not to mention the pollution from all of those cars, the tolls, etc., this should have been constructed a long time ago.  The voters who vote it down are really doing themselves and everyone else a disservice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not from Marin.  I live in San Francisco, and work here, so I am not affected by the toll unless I go to visit family in the North Bay.  I do have to say, however, that the lack of a BART type system from here to Marin and Sonoma County is ridiculous.  There are so many people who commute here from Marin.  With the cost of gas as excessive as it is, not to mention the pollution from all of those cars, the tolls, etc., this should have been constructed a long time ago.  The voters who vote it down are really doing themselves and everyone else a disservice.</p>
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