Is San Francisco becoming more dangerous?

Reading Mark’s post below, I clicked through to the Chron story linked, and saw this tidbit buried at the end:


San Francisco recorded 85 homicides last year, down from 96 in 2005, which had been the city’s highest number of homicides in a decade. Three people were fatally shot in the Bayview on Dec. 29, meaning there have been 14 homicides in the city in the past 17 days.

That seems like a whole lot of people being shot. Not to mention the charred body of a woman found on a boat ramp down by Candlestick Park. What’s going on?

13 Comments so far

  1. TinMan (unregistered) on January 14th, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

    I doubt if anyone has a definitive answer for you.

    Most likely, homicide comes in waves and it would not be surprising if the winter holidays see increased violent crime.

    That said, I think it is foolhardy to predict a long-term trend using such a short sample timeframe.


  2. Poormojo (unregistered) on January 14th, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    Just a note: trolling and/or excessively stupid comments will be deleted.


  3. Aaron B. Hockley (unregistered) on January 14th, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
  4. tyler82 (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 12:28 pm

    If you compare with Portland you might as well compare with Tracy, California. Portland isn’t a major city I don’t think it’s fair to compare.


  5. dln (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 12:52 pm

    Well, San Francisco still had fewer homicides than Cincinnati, OH in 2006 though. That has to mean something.


  6. Poormojo (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

    Yeah, don’t move to Ohio.


  7. Tironius (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 3:37 pm

    “Just a note: trolling and/or excessively stupid comments will be deleted.”

    He’s talking about my comment when I said the problem was simply: “The blacks.” He doesn’t want to admit that a person is exponentially more likely to be assaulted by a black than a white. Sorry, truth is truth.

    Keep your eyese closed if you want, but don’t call my comment stupid. Its blatantly true. I have no aspirations of a politcal career, so I need not be politically correct. Blacks. Cause. Crimes.


  8. Nancy (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 3:59 pm

    Disregard for the law and the value of life causes such heinous crimes as murder. Period. It is a sorry condition that crosses all ethnic and economic boundaries.


  9. dln (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

    @tironius: You’re full of shit it’s a wonder you can breathe.
    Poverty and crime are related. Melanin and criminality? Not so much.

    Now, bug off and move to Ohio. You’ll fit right in.


  10. Poormojo (unregistered) on January 15th, 2007 @ 5:53 pm

    @ Tirnoius: “a person is exponentially more likely to be assaulted by a black than a white”

    Really? Can I see some numbers here? Any evidence beyond your gut? I don’t believe it is the truth, and as such there is absolutely nothing for me to admit. Don’t state opinions as fact if you can’t back them up.

    Every single time in my life I have been attacked, beaten up, robbed, etc. it has been by white people. Every time.


  11. Tironius (unregistered) on January 16th, 2007 @ 4:39 am

    Oh gee, numbers. Is the Department of Justice a valid resource of data? If so, then we can use their statistics to state that for all the interracial victimizations in their most recent survey release, of the 1.2 million crimes, 89%—-did you read that?—80-freaking-9 percent were committed by blacks, on whites. Does melanin cause it? I never said that, but is certainly is present, 89% of the time.

    Culture causes it. The gangster-glamorization culture that is prevailant everywhere. The culture of the whites who–by condescending raciscm–expect it to happen, look the other way, or explain it away with excuses of poverty. Fucking hippies. I have never felt my life in danger walking through a poor, white neighborhood. Don’t give me that poverty shit.

    I don’t dislike the blacks, not the ones who live a good life. I’m not a white-supremist. Statistically, Asians cause even less crime than whites, even after you adjust for population differences. I am not so stupid, however, to walk through a black neighborhood at three in the morning. I’ll happily walk through a Chinese one. The same goes for all of you, but you’re too damn afraid–or stupid– to admit it. Hypocrits.


  12. dln (unregistered) on January 16th, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

    @tyronius: Again, you’re so full of yourself and feces it’s unbelievable.

    > I have never felt my life in danger walking through a poor, white neighborhood.

    Perhaps if you were african-american you’d feel differently. Perhaps you haven’t seen a poor, white, neighborhood as others have. And perhaps you’re simply trying to fit what you learn into what personal fears and prejudice you’ve already framed as your truth.

    Spewing insipid racist garbage, saying you “don’t dislike ‘the blacks'” and then calling other hypocrites. Now, that’s rich.

    > The same goes for all of you, but you’re too damn afraid–or stupid– to admit it.

    You are making assumptions you have no place making, son. And you are wrong about them. But you don’t really care, do you?

    You are part of no solution, just the problem. Just a tiny david duke who learned to type.

    Now, as for “fucking hippies”, I suppose you assume everybody embraces you, wants to hear you out and think you’re just misguided. Fuck that. You’re just loud, simple-minded, privileged scum, and you’re not even being honest with yourself.


  13. dissent (unregistered) on January 17th, 2007 @ 7:48 pm

    A note about the statistics.

    What is being asserted:

    a person is exponentially more likely to be assaulted by a black than a white.

    Note that “a person” may be black or white.

    the statistics used to back up what is being asserted:

    for all the interracial victimizations in their most recent survey release, of the 1.2 million crimes, 89%—-did you read that?—80-freaking-9 percent were committed by blacks, on whites.

    The statistics don’t support the claim. Interracial victimizations are a relatively small portion of assaults. Most assaults are intraracial, that is white on white or black on black. To generalize from the interracial portion is simply wrong, and misleading.



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